With Facebook emphasizing community, marketers are trying out Facebook Groups

As Facebook deprioritizes publisher content and potentially makes brand advertising more important, agency buyers are increasingly pitching Facebook groups to advertisers.

Facebook launched “Groups for Pages” over the summer, which enabled Pages to make groups or simply get them linked. Facebook says about a billion people use groups every month. Groups are attractive to brands because they combine community with “authenticity” — and won’t be punished under the new algorithm changes.

Brands including non-profits like Ellie’s Way, retailers like Fleet Feet, bike brand Peloton and cult kitchen appliance brand Instant Pot have started Facebook Groups. At Peloton, 64,000 people are part of its Group, which is linked to its 334,000-strong Page. There, community managers lead conversations about favorite instructors, biking gear, and fitness goals. The Instant Pot Group, which has 1.2 million members, includes recipes and “commonly asked questions.”

At 360i, there has been more interest from brands — including in categories like retail and auto — to get involved in groups in the wake of the Facebook algorithm change. “Facebook groups present an organic and unique opportunity to drive a deeper level of engagement,” said Alec Piliafas, social marketing director at 360i, which created a Facebook group for its client HBO for television show “Big Little Lies.” “Pages served the role around pushes specifically. But groups can now serve as engagement.”

Groups can work for brands with active communities. For example, fitness company Peloton uses a Peloton Rider group that is linked to its official Peloton page.

For brands, Facebook’s recent move reads as an emphasis on “active” participation over passive engagement like views. That means any active participation by customers and users via comments or creation should theoretically be rewarded.

Another reason brands are drawn to groups, according to Piliafas, is that the analytics within groups can show much more interesting data. On a higher level, group owners can get more information from an audience with real, demonstrated behavior than what Piliafas calls “assumed” psychographic or demographic input. With Group Insights, which shows owners everything from who is active to when users are active, brands can build more of a publishing strategy.

Still, it’s slow going for brands, compared with publishers like Vox, BuzzFeed and The New York Times, which all have been running groups to grow subscriptions and promote articles. One reason, buyers say, is that brands interested in groups are hesitant to pull the trigger because they’re afraid that Facebook will change algorithms or rules — or try to monetize groups as well. “Brands are so wary because of all the changes Facebook keeps rolling out,” said Piliafas. “Before they invest time, money and energy into that realm, we need to take it slow.”

Dana Flax, a director on the social and marketing team at HBO, which was the first “brand” to use groups for “Big Little Lies” about a year ago, said she found that a group was the right venue for people to “interact.” The brand reached out to the media partnerships team at Facebook at the time to ask for its cooperation in building the group. The hardest part, said Flax, was promoting the group outside Facebook and in the news feed; using influencers — or the show cast, in HBO’s case — to make that happen, was key.

Noah Mallin, managing partner at Wavemaker, said his team is actively talking to clients in consumer packaged goods that are interested more in groups in the wake of Facebook’s changes. Pairing influencer marketing, which is one of the winners of the changes, with organic content in groups works well to drive and promote conversation there. “Inevitably, Facebook will see a lot of brands doing this and try to figure out to monetize,” he said.

One side effect has been what is dubbed inside digital and media agencies as a resurgence of community management. Renewed interest in active participation, especially through groups, means it’s time for community managers — who had long been relegated to roles that prized posting and reposting — to shine. At agency AGW, CEO Adam Gorode had a town hall last week to discuss the Facebook news. One big question: How community managers on his team would be affected and what kind of retraining may benefit them the most. The agency, which is working on creating a new group for retail brand ’47, is now looking to give those community managers classes in, for example, screenwriting, to help them promote dialogue.

“Creating a group for a brand, you are inviting people to talk about it,” said Piliafas. “There has been a reason and incentive to go to that group versus creating your own.”

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Life After Advertising: From Deutsch CEO to cleaning supplies startup founder

In our new series “Life After Advertising,” we share the stories of past advertisers who endured the long hours in the industry and have emerged in a new career, perhaps a little worn, but mostly unscathed and living new dreams.

Linda Sawyer, 56, spent 27 years working for Deutsch, including 10 years as its CEO and the last two as chairman. Sawyer left Deutsch at the end of 2016 to scratch an entrepreneurial itch.

Last October, Sawyer and her best friend from second grade, Alison Adler Matz, launched Skura Style, an e-commerce company that sells home cleaning supplies. The first product, a sponge made of antimicrobial agents, is sold in a set of four for $12 a month or every other month. 

Digiday spoke to Sawyer about why she set out to be an entrepreneur and what she doesn’t miss about advertising. Answers have been condensed for clarity.

What spurred you to start a cleaning-product brand?
I am a complete cleaning fanatic. One day, I was just chatting with Alison, and I had been bothered by the fact that, if you really think about the kitchen, there are so many aspects of it that are innovative, but then you have the kitchen sponge. I couldn’t understand how the kitchen sponge seemed to be trapped in time. Sponges are really bacteria magnets. Every time you’re using a sponge, you’re wiping bacteria on your countertops, but people are complacent about replacing them. We went on a crusade to figure out how to create a sponge that you could actually love, that is beautiful and highly clean.

Why did you start a company later in your career?
I always had an entrepreneurial bug that was nesting within, and it’s fun to unleash that. Having decades of experience provides a tremendous advantage in terms of wealth of knowledge, perspective, having a vast and diverse network and possessing a strong point of view with declarative confidence in decision-making.

What’s the biggest difference of being a CEO of a company you own versus a big ad agency that’s part of a bigger holding company?
There are more similarities than differences, but being the CEO of an e-commerce company is like owning a store that is open seven days a week, 24/7.

What part of entrepreneurship has surprised you? 
Everything eventually lands on your desk. You can get really distracted by all the details since you have to wear a million hats. It is important to be disciplined and focused on the big picture.

Why choose an e-commerce monthly subscription model over retail?
Part of the reason we’re very committed to that is we’re really trying to change behavior, and that’s frequent replacement. There is an ease of convenience to online shopping. People don’t have to think about it; it just arrives at their door. We wanted an e-commerce brand because we wanted total control over the branding experience, everything from how the brand is encountered to the unboxing experience.

How are you using your past experience in advertising to power your brand?
One of the most important skills in advertising is the ability to leverage deep consumer insights. You can understand what [people’s] practical but also emotional needs are, and then optimize that within a relevant cultural context. When we did our research, consumers admitted their complacency about sponge replacement. If you use your sponge pretty much every day, it will fade within a week. So, our sponge’s surface fades with use and acts as a visual indicator for when it’s time to replace. They also wanted to know how long they should keep their sponges. We send a weekly email with a cleaning tip and a reminder that it’s time to change.

What don’t you miss about advertising?
I was tired of inheriting other people’s business decisions. A lot of times, the creativity, in terms of the strategy that you would develop, was about overcoming certain business decisions that were made way before you even started working with the client. With Skura Style, we’re not in any way mired by any internal politics. We can just do everything with a purity of focus and agenda.

How connected do you feel to the world of advertising?
In many respects, I’m dealing with a lot of the stuff that any marketer is dealing with, in terms of we’re currently relying a lot on PR and social media. Last week, we were on “The View,” and I thought our email was going to blow up. I feel like I’m still experiencing it, but more from a client perspective.

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